I can see jaw problems causing psychological issues.
But I'm not convinced that it's a result of skull pressure, as far as I know, that can be tested for, and ultimately, I don't see how moving the teeth and jaw around would deflate the skull.
Also skull pressure causes symptoms consistent with autism and ocd.
My own hypothesis is that it relates to the nerves which travel through and around the jaw.
As you mentioned, TMJ can cause balance issues and confusion, it can also disrupt heart rhythm and breathing rate.
There are also glands in the neck and throat which can affect mood. Jaw and neck tension caused by poor positioning of the jaw could lower blood circulation and cause glandular disorders.
This would mean that many of the people getting the orthodontics would have had problems anyway, but the corrections made the issue worse by failing to address the root cause.
Spinal posture alone can make a large difference to mood and improve jaw positioning.
I believe the fundamental issue is that people aren't chewing hard foods often enough, instead favouring soft heavily processed goods.
As a result their jaw muscles do not get enough exercise leading to muscle atrophy and poor jaw posture.
This also impacts bone and joint development. Since the bite force is a principal element in straightening the teeth and widening the jaw.
As a result, the jaw is too narrow to fit all the teeth, leading to inappopriate pressure, overcrowding and a wisdom tooth that can press against nearby nerves, sometimes causing intense pain.
As I understand it, when the jaw is relaxed, it naturally applies a considerable bite force, which is why it clamps down hard in several conditions including death.
So, people who "mouth breathe" are holding the jaw open continuously, often unconsciously, because their jaw isn't closing properly, or because their nose is perpetually clogged.
The nose clogging in my experience is a result of overbreathing and allergies. Both of which can generally be addressed with regular exercise and apnea training.
Contrary to popular opinion, allergies can be cured.
It should also be noted that many cardiovascular illnesses and heart diseases are correlated with dental problems.
Differences in orthodontic theory should be added to this discussion as in orthognathic vs purely esthetic purposes. There is also the fact that people who have unattractive teeth suffer socially.
I haven’t had any orthodontics done, is that why I remain fit and studly besides getting up in my years? I can keep up and fit as active duty Marines despite my having left active duty almost 30 years ago.
After you experience the dental<>mental health connection yourself multiple times and i can prob count at least 30-40 people i personally know who would tell u the same thing happened to them... it's more than a hypothesis.
~100 in my community of which many are keeping journals that i read weekly.
I'm gonna prove everything. Don't worry.
Just give another 6 months or so. We're gonna show some shit that is gonna rock this world.
But dont get me wrong.. i'm not going to do some type of research study. Just real people getting real results. And sharing it.
And for all the folks that think you need to prove stuff via research or proper studies... my view would be that stuff just works very differently these days when u understand social media.
Ask how many people have tried 'Mewing' at this point.
I'd guess its easily in the millions.
Then ask.. "But where is the scientific study that proves that it works?"
Ok not sure if my story lines up at all but I find this interesting. I’m definitely going to look into it all more as it relates to my own health. I always had good wife facial structure but was born with an underbite. When I was 10 my dad died and at 11 I got braces despite my teeth being straight- they just bent my teeth backwards to hide the underbite, very stupid. Anyway, when I was 12 my step father sexually abused me. My mom stayed with my and abandoned us by living with him part time and only coming home to do dishes and laundry occasionally (I did most of the cooking for the family for many years and we fended for ourselves for breakfast and lunch). Throughout high school I was very depressed (because of dental work? Because of life trauma? Both?) and when my boyfriend cheated on me at 17 I became suicidal and was under suicide watch in a hospital for a week. For the next 2 years I was on different antidepressants and was in university but dropped out several times and hopped between jobs. By 20, I had started experimenting with diet (going paleo) and started sleeping on the floor because I read it was better for posture (and I had scoliosis and wanted to try and fix it myself). Over the next year I had thrown away my medications cold Turkey and my spine was straight now. I had thrown away my orthotics years prior and my depression had lifted so much that I was able to hold the same job and be consistent. By my 30’s i had discovered barefoot, grounding, all meat diets, mewing, and was doing well. I got a dexa scan and there was perfect body balance and no scoliosis anymore and mine was extreme curvature. My face is still wide and I mew when I remember but my underbite will always bother me visually. I can see it even if others can’t. I’ve since had a child, I’m 36, I’m overweight and endured a decade-long abusive relationship which resulted in my child. I’m not depressed and haven’t been but I’m overweight. I have experimented with fasting and desperately need to lose weight, my face still looks young and I’d like to meet someone wonderful and continue to have children while I still can. I still sleep flat without a pillow. I wonder if all my postural and diet interventions somehow helped me avoid mental health decline despite everything? I haven’t been eating well for 4 years since I had my child (but my pregnancy was all raw dairy and lots of raw meats and oysters, sourdough bread and berries), I guess the depression manifests in me finding comfort with food. My goal is to lose weight and be beautiful again and find love and a good father figure for my son. His father is in his life but I want to make sure my next partner is also good for my son. I wanted jaw surgery but your page makes me think twice about it.
Hello Queue the Revolution, I read your comment with a heavy heart. I am sorry about the trauma you describe in your post. I hope you are doing better than you were five months ago. Did you come to any conclusions about pursuing jaw surgery vs. following the Reviv route?
It was a bit technical, but I was able to get through it. Remarkable the extent to which cosmetic dentistry can have major health impacts years downstream—such latency has made causal relationships difficult to establish
I’m from the UK and we have always marvelled at how great your teeth are in the US. We assumed you all got braces at school. My 2 sisters both had braces growing up but I didn’t. They both have health issues and mobility issues. I’m concerned after reading your articles because my 12 year old daughter is about to get fitted for braces. Is this something I should allow and then just watch for physical and mental health issues later in life?
Both Hailey and Justin had terrible injuries a couple of years back, ill health takes a toll. So if these celebrities did mewing instead and changed their skulls over time that would have been alright? Is it just the speed? Or is it that the poorly arranged teeth speak to undiagnosed health issues like EDS and forcing them into place is like trying to smother a smoke signal? I remember a talk by a dental anthropologist who showed an old Indian skull which was absolutely perfect with square jaw and straight teeth with no holes. All without floss and fluoride. She said it was 100% diet based. When you give cats a crappy diet it affects the next 3 generations, even if they eat well.
I am in Toronto, I rarely agree w doctors or dentists, actually have two goals… become my own doc (done), banker (in progress), maybe I will add this slant as well. 😆
Lupus is essentially autoimmune: the immune system is hyperactive and therefore attacks its own cells. An easy fix would be to reboot system: immunomodulators and change of diet.
Your theory has to have a controlled group experiment. Celebrities are almost all a certain brain type: Front right brainers, who have poor diet choices. Diet can account for bad oral health: bacteria and candida, which essentially reach the brain and affects mental health.
Also i fully agree with teh controlled group experiment. But that right there is the whole reason why i started this business, Reviv.
We already have close to 100 that signed up for the support system + community and i'm tracking quite a number of people's journals as they go thru the process now.
I’m not sure I buy the ‘always orthodontics’ idea. Famous people without braces have also faced similar health or mental challenges.
How do you account for those cases where there is no orthodontic intervention to blame? Seems like a broader issue than just teeth.
Who went from being in great shape to falling apart physically and mentally in their prime that did not do something to their teeth?
I havent seen a good example yet.
But ive seen plenty that did do something to their teeth.
When you are checking how your dental contacts change on a tracking splint daily as i described here https://reviv.substack.com/p/a-tracking-splint-is-the-compass
You start to realize how tight the relationship is between your occlusion and changes in your body.
And if u destabilize your bite with ortho... you are prob in for a shitstorm at some point.
I can see jaw problems causing psychological issues.
But I'm not convinced that it's a result of skull pressure, as far as I know, that can be tested for, and ultimately, I don't see how moving the teeth and jaw around would deflate the skull.
Also skull pressure causes symptoms consistent with autism and ocd.
My own hypothesis is that it relates to the nerves which travel through and around the jaw.
As you mentioned, TMJ can cause balance issues and confusion, it can also disrupt heart rhythm and breathing rate.
There are also glands in the neck and throat which can affect mood. Jaw and neck tension caused by poor positioning of the jaw could lower blood circulation and cause glandular disorders.
This would mean that many of the people getting the orthodontics would have had problems anyway, but the corrections made the issue worse by failing to address the root cause.
Pun intended.
To me i openly say the ‘why’ is a black box.
I just know it happens because i experimented on a tracking splint for years as i discuss here: https://reviv.substack.com/p/a-tracking-splint-is-the-compass?utm_source=publication-search
ie. when spine & skull improved the curve of spee improved. My mental health, cognitive function, neurology improved.
when curve flattened all those things worsened.
I repeated this quite a number of times over a period of years. Not intentionlly though hahah
Indeed, I would expect so.
Spinal posture alone can make a large difference to mood and improve jaw positioning.
I believe the fundamental issue is that people aren't chewing hard foods often enough, instead favouring soft heavily processed goods.
As a result their jaw muscles do not get enough exercise leading to muscle atrophy and poor jaw posture.
This also impacts bone and joint development. Since the bite force is a principal element in straightening the teeth and widening the jaw.
As a result, the jaw is too narrow to fit all the teeth, leading to inappopriate pressure, overcrowding and a wisdom tooth that can press against nearby nerves, sometimes causing intense pain.
As I understand it, when the jaw is relaxed, it naturally applies a considerable bite force, which is why it clamps down hard in several conditions including death.
So, people who "mouth breathe" are holding the jaw open continuously, often unconsciously, because their jaw isn't closing properly, or because their nose is perpetually clogged.
The nose clogging in my experience is a result of overbreathing and allergies. Both of which can generally be addressed with regular exercise and apnea training.
Contrary to popular opinion, allergies can be cured.
It should also be noted that many cardiovascular illnesses and heart diseases are correlated with dental problems.
Most likely for all the same reasons.
Differences in orthodontic theory should be added to this discussion as in orthognathic vs purely esthetic purposes. There is also the fact that people who have unattractive teeth suffer socially.
Brilliant again
thanks!
good one. have you done tom cruise yet?
ah yes tom is an interesting one... he's in the backlog.
As he did braces as an early adult
But even though his body is completely twisted at this point.. he's held out longer than i thought.
As ive been tracking him for like 7 yrs
He also had braces at 39
I embarrassed to know that
I don’t think his mind has held out?
This is a stretch because he's not examining a cross section of the population but celebrities.. Celebrities always have mental health issues.
I was reading about Angelina Jolie yesterday, apparently she had braces too!
yes just checked.. she did.
But if u see the images of her with the braces on.. her arches were already quite wide.
So it didn't need to 'expand' her much/if any and most likely focused more on her front teeth (which dont really impact curve of spee much)
I haven’t had any orthodontics done, is that why I remain fit and studly besides getting up in my years? I can keep up and fit as active duty Marines despite my having left active duty almost 30 years ago.
hahaha
Well you will have aged far better/slower than someone that did ortho.
Because ortho would have destabilized the teeth and their curve of spee (which i explain in a different article) will have flattened far faster.
Braces leads to mental illness? Not being funny but, is that the hypothesis here?
Follow any large TMJ forum on Reddit or Facebook groups for awhile... and you will see that connection very clearly
But i've also experienced it myself and talk about it here https://reviv.substack.com/p/this-is-likely-at-the-root-cause?utm_source=publication-search
After you experience the dental<>mental health connection yourself multiple times and i can prob count at least 30-40 people i personally know who would tell u the same thing happened to them... it's more than a hypothesis.
im sure o that shit.
It's a straight-forward statistical question, dude. So do the statistics and demonstrate it formally. You don't do serious research on Reddit.
I am.
150+ have bought Reviv at this point.
~100 in my community of which many are keeping journals that i read weekly.
I'm gonna prove everything. Don't worry.
Just give another 6 months or so. We're gonna show some shit that is gonna rock this world.
But dont get me wrong.. i'm not going to do some type of research study. Just real people getting real results. And sharing it.
And for all the folks that think you need to prove stuff via research or proper studies... my view would be that stuff just works very differently these days when u understand social media.
Ask how many people have tried 'Mewing' at this point.
I'd guess its easily in the millions.
Then ask.. "But where is the scientific study that proves that it works?"
And you will hear crickets.
Ok not sure if my story lines up at all but I find this interesting. I’m definitely going to look into it all more as it relates to my own health. I always had good wife facial structure but was born with an underbite. When I was 10 my dad died and at 11 I got braces despite my teeth being straight- they just bent my teeth backwards to hide the underbite, very stupid. Anyway, when I was 12 my step father sexually abused me. My mom stayed with my and abandoned us by living with him part time and only coming home to do dishes and laundry occasionally (I did most of the cooking for the family for many years and we fended for ourselves for breakfast and lunch). Throughout high school I was very depressed (because of dental work? Because of life trauma? Both?) and when my boyfriend cheated on me at 17 I became suicidal and was under suicide watch in a hospital for a week. For the next 2 years I was on different antidepressants and was in university but dropped out several times and hopped between jobs. By 20, I had started experimenting with diet (going paleo) and started sleeping on the floor because I read it was better for posture (and I had scoliosis and wanted to try and fix it myself). Over the next year I had thrown away my medications cold Turkey and my spine was straight now. I had thrown away my orthotics years prior and my depression had lifted so much that I was able to hold the same job and be consistent. By my 30’s i had discovered barefoot, grounding, all meat diets, mewing, and was doing well. I got a dexa scan and there was perfect body balance and no scoliosis anymore and mine was extreme curvature. My face is still wide and I mew when I remember but my underbite will always bother me visually. I can see it even if others can’t. I’ve since had a child, I’m 36, I’m overweight and endured a decade-long abusive relationship which resulted in my child. I’m not depressed and haven’t been but I’m overweight. I have experimented with fasting and desperately need to lose weight, my face still looks young and I’d like to meet someone wonderful and continue to have children while I still can. I still sleep flat without a pillow. I wonder if all my postural and diet interventions somehow helped me avoid mental health decline despite everything? I haven’t been eating well for 4 years since I had my child (but my pregnancy was all raw dairy and lots of raw meats and oysters, sourdough bread and berries), I guess the depression manifests in me finding comfort with food. My goal is to lose weight and be beautiful again and find love and a good father figure for my son. His father is in his life but I want to make sure my next partner is also good for my son. I wanted jaw surgery but your page makes me think twice about it.
dont do surgery. Look at the people that did surgery 5-10 years on. I've never seen a situation where the person was glad they did it.
Hello Queue the Revolution, I read your comment with a heavy heart. I am sorry about the trauma you describe in your post. I hope you are doing better than you were five months ago. Did you come to any conclusions about pursuing jaw surgery vs. following the Reviv route?
Good wide* facial structure haha
Tangent: Familiar with “The Toxic Tooth”? https://www.amazon.com/Toxic-Tooth-canal-could-making/dp/0983772827/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?sr=8-1
I havent read this book but have heard things like this about root canals many times..
It was a bit technical, but I was able to get through it. Remarkable the extent to which cosmetic dentistry can have major health impacts years downstream—such latency has made causal relationships difficult to establish
oh sometimes the latency is only a year or so... ive seen some very fast collapse with the combo of bicuspid extractions and braces.
Ugh
I’m from the UK and we have always marvelled at how great your teeth are in the US. We assumed you all got braces at school. My 2 sisters both had braces growing up but I didn’t. They both have health issues and mobility issues. I’m concerned after reading your articles because my 12 year old daughter is about to get fitted for braces. Is this something I should allow and then just watch for physical and mental health issues later in life?
i recommend putting a rubber mouthguard on your 12 year old and dropping the braces
check out:
https://reviv.substack.com/p/orthodontics-will-be-the-biggest?utm_source=publication-search
https://reviv.substack.com/p/the-impact-of-orthodontics?utm_source=publication-search
Thank you so much.
As a medium sized adult do I order a small or large?
large is better. Small is more for teens/kids
Both Hailey and Justin had terrible injuries a couple of years back, ill health takes a toll. So if these celebrities did mewing instead and changed their skulls over time that would have been alright? Is it just the speed? Or is it that the poorly arranged teeth speak to undiagnosed health issues like EDS and forcing them into place is like trying to smother a smoke signal? I remember a talk by a dental anthropologist who showed an old Indian skull which was absolutely perfect with square jaw and straight teeth with no holes. All without floss and fluoride. She said it was 100% diet based. When you give cats a crappy diet it affects the next 3 generations, even if they eat well.
I’m not a big believer in ‘mewing’. And i think the Mews’ understanding of how this stuff works is flawed.
I explain this here https://reviv.substack.com/p/my-take-on-the-mews
And here: https://reviv.substack.com/p/mike-mews-court-case-why-did-it-happen
So please dont associate me to them.
Rather i think they would have been fine if they just wore a rubber mouthguard to bed everynight.
I'm trying to decide between a bridge or zirconia implant to replace a root canal I finally had removed. Any thoughts?
i dont like giving dental advice…. but generally id say stick to principles in which:
1- you are not locking an occlusion (ie. keep things flat so bite doesnt have a fixed position)
2- don’t lock multiple teeth together the way a bridge does as teeth need to be able to move
If you don't mind sharing, why did you have your root canal removed?
What do you recommend, both my sons had braces and now that bracket in upper palate. They are 26 and 23.
Take off any retainer.
A rubber mouthguard at night and a few hours during the day.
Potentially flat composite on back 2 lower teeth on either side (if u can find a dentist willing to do it for you)
I have found a functional dentist downtown, would he know what you mean by that?
Dentists often call them 'turbos' so if u say that they might understand.
Alf dentists often prop their patients up on turbos to allow the upper arch to expand.
Sometimes when putting braces they do this too.
Can the upper arch expand at any age or is it true just children
any age.. but it needs to be done via the soft tissue in my view.
for example this is just 9 months of myobrace use by an adult female that was in my group years back https://share.cleanshot.com/bHLzk3h9
Yes definitely improvement there is alot of push for mse which is bone bourne for adults... I guess can go wrong as it's screws drilled in
I am in Toronto, I rarely agree w doctors or dentists, actually have two goals… become my own doc (done), banker (in progress), maybe I will add this slant as well. 😆
Flat composite… as in grind them down?
you're adding composite (cement) on top of the tooth. So you're adding height to the bite.
No grinding of the teeth involved. Grinding teeth is always a bad thing in my view.
Composite is the same cement dentists typically use on fillings
Does the composite last a while?
He has examined both my sons, will consult w him re this suggestion. 🙏🏻
good luck.. dentists rarely agree with me :)
The good thing about the last 4 years is... i no longer care. lol
What state are u in? I know one in Texas and potentially Virginia that might be able to help u
She has lupus and renal failure and is on chronic steroids you dope. How is she supposed to look? Jesus
the article is about root cause.... why she has these issues.
Or is the interpretation that everything is always genetic?
Lupus is essentially autoimmune: the immune system is hyperactive and therefore attacks its own cells. An easy fix would be to reboot system: immunomodulators and change of diet.
Your theory has to have a controlled group experiment. Celebrities are almost all a certain brain type: Front right brainers, who have poor diet choices. Diet can account for bad oral health: bacteria and candida, which essentially reach the brain and affects mental health.
fully agree
And yes i'd read a bit about lupus... so id known that it was autoimmune.
But i've also seen how powerful these biomechanics are on the immune system and wrote an article about it: https://reviv.substack.com/p/i-havent-been-sick-in-over-four-years
Also i fully agree with teh controlled group experiment. But that right there is the whole reason why i started this business, Reviv.
We already have close to 100 that signed up for the support system + community and i'm tracking quite a number of people's journals as they go thru the process now.
So this is for sure part of the plan.