Many years ago when I was in practice I had a patient who had a partial denture replacing his lower back teeth. It had worn down. He was due to have hip replacement surgery.
I build his denture up to increase the vertical and hey presto he no longer needed surgery!
Also build up the back baby molars of a 3 year old with ear problems who was due to have grommets. I added composite material to his back molars to increase the vertical and no more ear infections - surgery cancelled.
Some of us do know this stuff but I’m so pleased to read your Substack on this matter.
yes.. i was blown away by my US dentist in 2017 who told me that he and some other dentists were using 'Planas tracks' with amazing results on kids for decades.
I am far from the only person that knows how you can improve by these biomechanics.
But i do plan on being the first to show its 'full potential'. ie. that you can achieve a perfect body, perfect facial symmetry and perfect health at any age with any genetics while doing no exercise and eating crap.
To me, the mechanics and concept of how this works is so simple, yet you try to explain it to the so called professional that botched you and they suggest you “seek therapy” . I have renewed hope that I can regain my curve of spee and in turn my function and life. Thank you for making complete sense in a world full of nonsensical bullsh*t, haha
I love the metaphor about the onion, so true! Will I be able to improve my curve of spee with the rubber mouth guard or would I need to do the flat plane splint - drilling process to do that?
So based on the other things i saw and felt... i am pretty sure that it relates to the whole stretching of the soft tissue -> inflates the balloon (skull) -> Skull and jaw revert to correct position -> correction of curve of spee
But this for me is a hypothesis based on what i observed. It may work a little bit different in reality as it is a bit of a black blox.
But the fact is.. you dont need to understand exactly what is in the black box to leverage it. As long as you get reliable outputs for your inputs... you know that it works.
The reality is that i know for a fact that those various activities (eg. wearing mouthguard, yoga, etc) improved my curve of spee because i consistently saw it on the tracking splint when adjusting contacts afterwards.
ie. there is no guessing or hypothesis that the mouthguard improved the curve of spee. Because i saw it each time i drilled the contacts on the splint even.
having seen my son have composite on his last lower teeth for 3+ years now killed any thought that this is bad.
Before the composite... his teeth always had a lot of plaque, he had a cavity, etc.
After the composite... his dentist thinks he is brushing like 3-4x a day because everything is immaculate.
And note that for the last 2 yrs we only make him brush 1x per day because things naturally stay clean. Before the composite he always brushed 2x a day.
Also, functionally he has zero issues. Chews fine.
The guy who did the composite 1.5 yrs ago from my first test group put more composite on like 4x already... in part because he said he loves how much better he chews with it.
Thanks for your fascinating blogs. What about people who have had their back molars removed (including me). Does that mean related health issues and soft tissue collapse later on. By the way I clicked through to look into buying your mouthguard but it opened the photo, no shop.
I’m totally with you on that. And yet when I opened Wikipedia Eng and Rus and checked the Curve of Spee they wrote rubbish that the main purpose of orthodontist is keep it as flat as possible.
Many years ago when I was in practice I had a patient who had a partial denture replacing his lower back teeth. It had worn down. He was due to have hip replacement surgery.
I build his denture up to increase the vertical and hey presto he no longer needed surgery!
Also build up the back baby molars of a 3 year old with ear problems who was due to have grommets. I added composite material to his back molars to increase the vertical and no more ear infections - surgery cancelled.
Some of us do know this stuff but I’m so pleased to read your Substack on this matter.
yes.. i was blown away by my US dentist in 2017 who told me that he and some other dentists were using 'Planas tracks' with amazing results on kids for decades.
I am far from the only person that knows how you can improve by these biomechanics.
But i do plan on being the first to show its 'full potential'. ie. that you can achieve a perfect body, perfect facial symmetry and perfect health at any age with any genetics while doing no exercise and eating crap.
Give me a few more months!
To me, the mechanics and concept of how this works is so simple, yet you try to explain it to the so called professional that botched you and they suggest you “seek therapy” . I have renewed hope that I can regain my curve of spee and in turn my function and life. Thank you for making complete sense in a world full of nonsensical bullsh*t, haha
yes.. remember the mechanics to fix this are simple.
1- vertical
2- unlock the occlusion
Than everything just becomes a function of how fast u can make the process go. But you'll be getting better the whole time
I love the metaphor about the onion, so true! Will I be able to improve my curve of spee with the rubber mouth guard or would I need to do the flat plane splint - drilling process to do that?
the rubber guard is faster than flat plane splint. But good to use both. Flat plane u use during the day when u need to talk.
So you can add composite to your back molars to get vertical? Which ones? His high? Thanks!
on kids i would put it on the very last lower molar on either side.
And use enough height such that u can squeeze the edge of your pinky b/w front teeth when mouth is closed.
I don't get how the mouthguard could change the curve of spee though?
So based on the other things i saw and felt... i am pretty sure that it relates to the whole stretching of the soft tissue -> inflates the balloon (skull) -> Skull and jaw revert to correct position -> correction of curve of spee
But this for me is a hypothesis based on what i observed. It may work a little bit different in reality as it is a bit of a black blox.
But the fact is.. you dont need to understand exactly what is in the black box to leverage it. As long as you get reliable outputs for your inputs... you know that it works.
The reality is that i know for a fact that those various activities (eg. wearing mouthguard, yoga, etc) improved my curve of spee because i consistently saw it on the tracking splint when adjusting contacts afterwards.
ie. there is no guessing or hypothesis that the mouthguard improved the curve of spee. Because i saw it each time i drilled the contacts on the splint even.
I understand the jaw and skull adjusting to their position, but what if the teeth were filed down or abrased, they won't just grow back...
So we just have to take it as it is
or do you think the mouthguard can also change teeth contact, intrusion/extrusion, etc...?
I have seen many sodis apf cases and it seems like it's not the case.
For sure teeth contacts change but i think its more because they upright and the arches expand.
Im not too sure about intrusion/extrusion.
And there is no need for the teeth to grow back. Because you simply develop more and more of a posterior open bite.
And that doesnt pose a problem as long as you sleep with the mouthguard in.
Then when you are done... you put flat composite on the back teeth to close the open bite. I talk about this here https://reviv.substack.com/p/the-mystery-around-posterior-open
I don't like the idea of dealing with a mouthguard forever, or having the gap closed artificially, but it really seems like the only option...
having seen my son have composite on his last lower teeth for 3+ years now killed any thought that this is bad.
Before the composite... his teeth always had a lot of plaque, he had a cavity, etc.
After the composite... his dentist thinks he is brushing like 3-4x a day because everything is immaculate.
And note that for the last 2 yrs we only make him brush 1x per day because things naturally stay clean. Before the composite he always brushed 2x a day.
Also, functionally he has zero issues. Chews fine.
The guy who did the composite 1.5 yrs ago from my first test group put more composite on like 4x already... in part because he said he loves how much better he chews with it.
Thanks for your fascinating blogs. What about people who have had their back molars removed (including me). Does that mean related health issues and soft tissue collapse later on. By the way I clicked through to look into buying your mouthguard but it opened the photo, no shop.
Also how was yoga effecting the occlusal points?
yoga changes the occlusal points. And i generally interpret that as having improved the occlusion.
The problem is that it all goes back to where it was in a few days.
But it doesn't go back if you continue the process right? Instead it just keeps improving. That's the idea?
yes. if you wear a rubber guard or flat plane splint you dont lose your gains from the yoga. You just keep improving
I’m totally with you on that. And yet when I opened Wikipedia Eng and Rus and checked the Curve of Spee they wrote rubbish that the main purpose of orthodontist is keep it as flat as possible.
yep. this is why TMJ dentists flatten it. They were taught the wrong thing in dental school.
This single thing probably accounts for tens of thousands of lives being ruined each year by dentists.