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Junnies's avatar

i explored this issue with chatgpt from a diff perspective. the idea is that males and females have different frames for erotic tension/ attractiveness. and for females, there is a zone of optimal erotic tension between safety and excitement. a male is maximally attractive when he is safe enough for a women to relax around, but exciting enough to keep her interest. for males, erotic tension is more stimulus-dependent - how attractive and 'fertile' they look - which is also affected by biomechanics. (this is a simplistic viewpoint, but simplistic doesn't mean untrue. in long term relationships, age, different personality profiles, obv other factors matter)

the problem with 'nice guys' is that they move all the way to safety. women feel safe around them but not excited. as for the 'bad guys', it really depends on 'how bad' they are. if they are violent criminals level of bad, its extremely unattractive. but most 'bad guys' aren't really that bad, or that their 'badness' is initially disguised and only worsens/ reveals itself later when there is already significant commitment.

what biomechanics does is that the poorer it is, the more you move towards safety. you feel weak, declining, etc, so you naturally take less risks, play it safe, etc. and the stronger you get, you feel bolder, more assertive, take more risks - not bad, just a lot less 'safe'.

EGK's avatar

good analysis!

I generally agree and I think neurology is the invisible foundation to this 'bolder, more assertive, etc'

I take myself for example... i act far more boldy now without thinking about it, i take more risks (eg. the old Ken prob would not have gone all in on Reviv), etc

And this transition happened without any intention or plan. I just evolved into this different person as biomechanics improved.

1Vanessina's avatar

I find (as a woman), this way of thinking extremely harmful and hypocritical. Pretty much to -preserve- your marriage you need to lie about yourself or pretend to be someone who you are not, not to turn into the other someone your wife wants to be so to discard you once after manipulating you, she realizes that you have changed and you are not the person she married once.

The reality is that people (both men and women) pretend to be who they are not from the very beginning and that’s why many couples explode not long afterwards.

Let’s be honest, nobody likes to be married to a looser, we are animals and we all tend to pick the best ones, but who would navigate the nightmare of being married to a diva or a divo?

G-d keep me away from all the people who believe they are the only worth on earth.

EGK's avatar
Mar 3Edited

I think there are lots of harmful and hypocritical tendencies of humans once you adopt the biomechanical lens i have viewed the world thru these past years.

This example with marriage is just one.

And to be honest.. i dont think the people that are in decline (like I was) were lieing or pretending to be a person we were not. It's not how i viewed things at that time.

Rather i viewed it more from the perspective of survival. My shit has dropped in value and the other person has more leverage. Simple.

Everything came relatively 'naturally' based on those power dynamics.

And now they are rectifying without me ever having to pretend anything.. because my biomechanics have changed the power dynamics.

Christina Sophia's avatar

I totally concur with all your takes and conclusions here. The Bio-mechanics angle puts a whole different light on the problem for sure. And I get that. Meanwhile though, the fact is, in the western world whether these biomechanics are the issue or not, men are being screwed all the time when there is a divorce and it's completely unfair, and wrong in so many cases. I agree too, about the equal value thing - it does have to be there for a relationship to succeed or have a future but then things slide. I believe there are various reasons, not the least of which can be the entitlement & self importance women are given in recent decades, and even total disrespect of men in the first place but the Bio-mechanics effect is something new and puts it all in a different light. Thanks for sharing your experience. I hope that your views and the Reviv mouth guards explode in people's awareness & become massively understood and used in coming years for the benefit of ppls health and lives!

But here's this just to make my point above about what's happening to men...Are Men more Privileged than Women?

youtube.com/shorts/DwYs5Akgem4?si=vwqx6Pu1rVswURrE

Cincancon's avatar

biomechanics turned me into a big liar. Is there anyone experiencing the same situation?

Esther Abergel IFS Therapy's avatar

You mean I need to behave more like a diva?

EGK's avatar

No I don’t think you should try to behave that way. But as you get healthier my experience is that you’ll act a bit more that way

naturally

Esther Abergel IFS Therapy's avatar

Im waiting for the war to finish so I can order my mouthguard.

Janitorus's avatar

Poor James didn't get the memo that's been repeated a thousand times now that being a nice guy doesn't work lol. You provide a very interesting perspective on things: If we fix our biomechanics, then we will start naturally acting in a more attractive way.

EGK's avatar

yes.. good way to put it