Teeth need to be able to move with the Reviv process
So my recommendation is NOT to wear braces, aligners or retainers as you do Reviv.
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A lot of folks ask me if they can do Reviv while wearing a retainer, aligners, or braces.
And so I figured i’d knock this out with a blog post I can send to them.
The answer is no.
Today i’ll explain why.
Let’s first remind ourselves what Reviv appliance is doing
As mentioned many times in this Substack, Reviv is stretching soft tissue.
The curve of spee is improving, the arches are expanding, the jaw is moving, the skull and spine are changing, etc.
All of this impacts how the teeth sit.
But on top of that the teeth are also untwisting and uprighting.
So to make a long story short… the teeth are moving all of the time with Reviv!
At the beginning they move on a daily basis. Then later on it slows down.
Braces, aligners and retainers prevent this from happening
Braces, aligners and retainers lock the teeth down to where they currently are.
So you’re basically preventing the process i mention above from happening. And teeth can be viewed as being a function of this soft tissue… they move as you improve the soft tissue.
But if you have anchored them with something like braces you impede how the soft tissue stretches a lot.
Perhaps even completely. It’s not something i ever experimented with so the honest answer is that I don’t know whether you can improve at all while wearing something like braces or aligners.
Perhaps you can a bit. But I have a feeling you will have nullified most of the impact.
And if you think about it, there is no benefit to them if you’re wearing Reviv
When folks tell me they want to wear their braces still when starting Reviv they of course answer that they still want to straighten their teeth.
But braces move teeth around without stretching the soft tissue. And so i view it as cheating, which unfortunately doesn’t do anything useful for you in the long run. The minute you take the retainer off the soft tissue sends them right back to where the body wants them.
Reviv, on the otherhand, moves the teeth the right way. Via the soft tissue!
And since arches are expanding naturally and tongue will improve its position hugging the roof of the mouth, the conditions are created for the teeth to move into a nice line naturally.
Simply with Reviv! Or any similar mouthguard for that matter!
Kids using Myobrace have tons of examples of this if you search online. But the same holds true for adults.
I am often reminded of this lady in my old TMJ-related Facebook group that posted this image above in 2018 of her palate and teeth change after wearing Myobrace and doing myofunctional exercises for just 9 months.
I mean… if an adult can achieve that with a mouthguard and some exercises.. why the hell would anyone want to strap braces or aligners on?
You don’t need them to have straight teeth! And anything they do will just have to be undone for the most part with Reviv.
If you remove your retainer/braces will your teeth get crooked again?
So this is another very common question i get and i more need to answer it based on theory and observation.
My view is that if you are wearing Reviv consistently, meaning to sleep and 1-2 hours during the day, then things should not get crooked again.
Because the Reviv process is stretching the tissue and making more room for everything. Thus teeth will move, but they should have the space to continue to adjust without falling behind some other tooth.
Because crooked teeth is mainly an issue of lack of real estate because if the real estate is there than the tongue has more than enough power to push everything into a straight line. It has something like 10x the power it takes to move a tooth if i remember correctly.
And Reviv creates more real estate in the palate. Then the tongue and soft tissue do the rest!
The important thing is in my view playing the long game with this.
Things will shift, especially if you did orthodontics, and you need to trust in the fact that at the end if you stick to the Reviv process you should have nice wide jaws with plenty of room for straight teeth.
Closing thoughts
So remember…. Reviv will not work, or at least not work well, if you are wearing braces, invisalign, or retainers.
And so that might be a leap of faith for some of you. You’ll need to decide whether you wait till you finish your braces or aligners before starting Reviv or not.
I am not a dentist and I can only give you my perspective as I do not ‘treat’ you. You are doing this process on your own and I consider myself more of a guide.
So you need to take the decision based on the facts at hand and what you believe.
Some of you may decide to trust the guy in the white uniform… your orthodontist.
Having seen hundreds of people damaged by these orthodontists, i consider them the equivalent of a used car salesman.
They get zero respect from me. In the years ahead i will ridicule them until the day that this profession doesn’t exist. Because it shouldn’t in my view. Not if you understand how these biomechanics work.
And if you do decide to leave the braces/aligners/retainer on, it’s not the worst thing in the world. But whatever it is doing will probably just need to be undone later.
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I wish I had known about this before starting my orthodontic treatment. I’m curious—how would this affect someone who recently went through a palatal expander and Invisalign but isn’t satisfied with their jaw’s width? I’m supposed to wear a retainer every night, but I’m considering using Reviv instead. Could this potentially mess up my straight teeth and create gaps?