People love to ask me about our data

Where is the data that proves our method works? etc.

Someone was recently telling me how his friends were teasing him that he was doing Reviv.

They had gotten it into their heads from some social media comments that Reviv is a “scam” and that we lack data.

So today I want to address this because I find this to be an absolute joke when you look at the actual logic of it all.

Let’s define what good data is

I guess ‘good data’ would mean some kind of study that demonstrates that a certain method leads to consistent results.

Back in the day I used to google and read through research reports on sites like Pubmed like crazy.

What you often find is something like this… some type of technical conclusion that says that something seems to have helped a little bit.

a typical Pubmed research report wich conclusions about TMJ treatment

Go ahead and read through all the occlusal and TMJ-related research out there… back in 2017 i’d say i’d probably been through most of the good stuff I could find. I spent many hundreds of hours as I’m sure did my old friend, Marcello.

Did it give me the answers I was looking for as to why I was going in circles with my health? No, absolutely not.

Also lets not forget that this research is available to all of these dentists out there that treat things like TMJ.

And if you’ve ever been to the r/TMJ subreddit… you will have realized that TMJ dentistry is an absolute shit show. With stories of people suffering and getting worse for decades despite having spent many thousands of dollars on top TMJ dentists.

But, but… if all of these top dentists have access to all of this great ‘data’ and research why are their patients almost always still fucked? I know many people from the TMJ forums back when I was active in them in 2015 who are worse off today than they were back then.

They’d been to all the fancy dentists.

I on the otherhand DIY’d till i figured it out.

Today i’m healthy and living life on my own terms. And they’re pretty much all still screwed… poking themselves with Botox and still spending time in the same forums a decade later.

I’d say I made the right decision ;)

So who’s got this data?

People keep asking where’s my data. And so I like to flip the question around.

Who’s got this data that you’re looking for? This conclusive evidence that shows that some method absolutely works?

• Do orthodontics have this data?

• Do surgeons have this data?

• Do looksmaxxers who ask me about my data have this data?

No, i’m pretty sure none of them have this data.

I know for a fact that hundreds of people are being destroyed by things like orthodontics, extractions and surgery… because they are in our 1700+ member strong Reviv Skool community talking openly about it.

So let’s all accept that there is NOBODY out there that has perfect data.

What data have we got?

We have a community that is doing the process and posting about it openly on our community.

I do not tell them what to post. I have not removed a post yet tbh.

And yet.. you have HUNDREDS of posts and comments about how a simple mouthguard is helping them with all kinds of health issues, postural issues, etc. Plus helping with aesthetics in some cases.

Who else has that?

Do i hear crickets out there?

Is there some other method that has this combination of both transparency + results that we have?

Maybe your orthodontist who wants to take out a bunch of teeth out and wrap you up in braces? Oh i’m sure he’ll tell you his results are spectacular.

Then when you ask.. “ok can i talk to some of these patients that are your successful results?” This is where they go gun shy and tell you about the patient privacy that they need to maintain.

But why don’t they create a transparent, voluntary community of all past patients like us? After all it is legal as you see here.

I’ll tell you why they don’t do this… because it would be an absolute SHITSHOW of people complaining how they got messed up.

So wait… we have better data than anyone out there?

For those of you that want to gripe about data… please start by first saying who has better data.

Who has what we have? ie. hundreds of people on an open community saying how they are improving from all kinds of issues.

I know this space pretty well… I dont know anyone that comes close.

Also…. for the dentists and orthodontists that gripe at us… I like to remind folks of what the legal ‘standard of care’ is for something like TMJ:

As you can see it is conservative treatment first.

And that includes things like ‘self-care’, which I consider a simple mouthguard like Reviv to fit into. Because it is non-invasive, reversible and you do it yourself.

Then there is a list of things that are clearly NOT the legal standard of care.

And that list containts all of the bullshit that dentists are ruining people with.

Closing thoughts

So to revert back to how I started this article…. I gave this Reviv community member the following advice… which is basically what I do.

Just let them hate all they want.

All of these people will eventually come crawling back with their tails between their legs and need to admit they were were wrong.

Some of my friends and even family members are starting to cave.

My mom who didn’t believe me for almost a decade… is also now wearing a mouthguard every night to sleep. Not because i convinced her… but rather because she was jealous of my dad who’s been wearing one for close to two years. And was starting to function and look better than her, despite being older and not doing any of the exercise she was doing.

And remember that till these ‘haters’ cave and accept that we’re right… they’ll be dropping. Facing more and more health issues. Getting more and more assymetric and compensated.

Meanwhile we’re gettin’ better by the day.

So these days when someone tells me they think i’m wrong i just smile at them and say “fine…don’t believe me. I don’t give a shit.”

Then i go back to enjoyin’ my healthy & happy life ;)